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Make the most of your Facebook Groups experience, without blowing it for everyone else.

By now a generation has become accustomed to social media. Most who log in to any of their favorite forums acknowledge they have many strengths and weaknesses. I am not a great fan of Facebook in the “meta” sense (fitting they changed the company name to that), but after searching for alternatives, I’ve come to the conclusion that for affinity groups, Facebook is the least of all evils. Reddit? Instagram? TwiXer? If Facebook only vaguely resembles an orderly group conversation, the rest are like those old campaign trucks with bullhorns–shouting a message and scooting to the next block.

So, if you are going to assemble a group of like-minded activists, tinkerers, thinkers, or doers, Facebook is still the only game in town.

I’ve been an administrator for a handful of FB groups for a few years. My fellow moderators and I are very active keeping them on task and free of spam, trolls, and divergent topics. With our most active groups, we face a new challenge–“Overposting,” where the pace of posts is so fast, or the posts so graphically large– that ones own comment shows up bright and JPG- or video-enhanced but within seconds gets buried under the avalanche of other members’ uncurbed enthusiasm. This is the curse-side of a blessing: We’ve consciously grown the groups by inviting anyone we know with more than a passing interest in the groups’ foci, but that growth means we need to come up with ways to overcome the Overposting phenomena.

And we need our members’ help to keep Overposting from making the group experience frustrating or at best, feeling like one is caught in the middle of a music video shoot.

I have compiled here some suggestions for new members of any FB group, and some tips to make your FB experience as painless as possible.

Caveat: These are my opinions and suggestions only. Some of my fellow group moderators agree with me, some are upset with me about some suggestions and take them personally–after all they set up their group with the best of intentions and it is seriously not their fault that FB, and the rest of the social media blovioverse, stymies those intentions.

Premise: Facebook, love it or hate it, holds a near monopoly on user-friendly means to communicate in groups. I’ve looked at ’em all–Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, heck even MeWe–none cornered the market for eyeballs as well as FB when it comes to attracting people to Groups. And for all its flaws, you can get the most out of FB Groups if you understand its upsides and downsides.

Before you post to new group for the first time…

1. Get to know the group before you post. Your post may have already been the sum and substance of many others. If you have a question, use key words in the group’s Search function to find the answer. Learn from the group you wish to join before adding –inadvertently, with the best of intentions– clutter and duplication. Know this: If your group has 10,000 members, that does *not* mean 10,000 people will see your post. There may only be a few dozen who are actually “following” the group and so get notified of new posts. Another few dozen might only check in on a regular basis, so they will see your post–if they scroll down through all the posts since they last checked in. The main group I co-moderate has nearly 10,000 members, yet the posts with the most “reach” estimate only 1/4 have seen the post. Far fewer comment on and less “like, love, or ha ha” them. Still, that’s as many as 2500 members that have read your post! So, post relevant stuff, briefly, as infrequently as possible, and only when you’ve exhausted the search function for your answer.
2. Check out the header of your group before you post. It usually contains rules. It almost always defines what will fly, and what won’t. Follow these rules. If you’re not clear, contact an administrator. Also, is it a general, worldwide topical group? Or a regional subtopic of some larger subject? I’m a moderator for one regional group, two worldwide topical groups, and one subtopic group. While the worldwide group may welcome “come one, come all” keep in mind that several posts in a week on a regional aspect of that group’s mission may overwhelm the feed and keep people from seeing posts that came later than they previously checked in but before you posted again. The subtopical group is about how to make solar cookers DIY–needless to say, posting a celebration of ones first commercially bought solar oven is out of place. Most members are magnanimous about it, but for people seeking a haven away from the commercial brands and want to itch their maker scratch, it’s a distraction.
3. Look at the most recent posts before you post. The most frustrating experience of veteran group members is when we post something new, novel, innovative–and then two minutes later, someone posts something that’s already been hashed out, or is of a piece with several recent posts. It will be welcome! But please know that your post now pushes the previous post down the ladder. Then the next post pushes both down another rung. Before you know it, a new (and maybe even important!) thread has been buried. Think of the group as a meeting, one speaker at a time is ideal, otherwise it’s a cacaphony of chatter. Worse, with FB, it’s as if you just spoke to the group, and someone walks up and says “Great, but here’s something else to distract you.” With large, active groups, we are blessed and cursed with active and vocal members. Blessed in that we all seek new posts, aim to lift each other up with their efforts, and overall feel a sense of community–such as one can have in the virtual world. Cursed in that the structure of Facebook is meant to keep the company profitable, not just solvent, and the way group posts get sorted doesn’t resemble anything in the real world. Emphasis: This structural problem is not your doing, it’s Facebook’s. It’s wonderful that FB makes enough money that we can set up our personal and group accounts for free. But don’t think for a second that FB will spend a lot of time making the group experience more like–well, a group that meets in real time, or even online. Especially when their revenue-generating ads are kept out of groups, wo why would they make it more “group-friendly.” There’s a reason so much research is being done about the addictiveness of social media. If you don’t believe FB or other social media groups are addictive, take just one waking day’s worth of hours and log how often you check your Facebook feed, Twixxer account, or Reddit rant-a-thon. Then think about how, during that hour–or two or four!– the weeds you could have pulled from your garden, which book you put down a week ago you could’ve picked up and read some more of, or letters you could have written and (gasp!) mailed to friends who aren’t on, or you haven’t found on, FB. Sometimes I feel like the plot twist in The Walking Dead, when the last official at the CDC reveals, “We’re all infected.”
4. There are many topical FB groups that duplicate each other’s missions–it is a grave mistake to think that this increases meaningful communication among like-minded FB posters. E.g., just try to find a group to be your home for learning about permaculture. As of this edit date (Nov 24, 2023) There are 346 such groups, ranging from a few dozen members to several tens of thousands. First, unless you are a member of all those groups, you are bound to miss posts–important or trivial–posted in the ones you aren’t a member of. Communications experts call this “Channel Dilution” and it simply means, the more avenues we have for communicating the same message, the less actual meaningful communication overall takes place. If you are a member of all those permaculture groups, FB at least does you the favor of notifying you whenever there is a new post in any of them. But do you seriously have the time to follow even the most recent posts of dozens of groups? My experience is that being on multiple groups with the same theme and mission, one group will have posters who thinks they’ve come up with something new–because they aren’t on a more active and better-managed group where they’d know, “nothing is new under the sun.” So, you will be pulling up a lot of posts over and over again, that you’ve seen before. Yes: It is a big time waster, the biggest one I’ve experienced. To cut to the chase: Don’t think that joining a dozen groups with the same theme will net you 12 times as much meaningful communication–it simply won’t. I’d be happy to send you an analysis I ran by a veteran in communications education who validated every point.
5. FB thinks it is a great option to consider making your group Private. This is a great choice for sensitive groups–e.g., victims of domestic abuse may want their posts to stay within the group; creative types might want to keep their posts within a certain circle of colleagues as they develop potential inventions or programs. But if you are out to spread the word about permaculture, or Universal Basic Income, or to get out the vote, Private groups are the wrong way to go. The two worst problems with Private groups are: Your posts to a “private” group can always be screen-grabbed and shared anyway, anywhere–so don’t be fooled into thinking what you post is really private. And when you *do* want to share a post outside the group using Facebook’s Share button—you can’t, it isn’t there! It’s only under a post in a Public group. Worse, Facebook violates its own implied guarantee of privacy by adding a “Send” button, where you can send via message to anyone you know regardless of their membership in the group. With the proliferation of groups covering the same topic, and the topic isn’t controversial, you are basically hording good stuff with your private group, or if you want to share, you have to check in with your other groups and go through the process of re-posting. You want a time waster? It’s built in.
6. Do you want everyone in a group to see your post–all of it, including photos? If no, and your FB settings only share your posts with “Friends” or “Friends of Friends,” then please don’t join the group. Your posts will show the anonymous “Content not available” advisory and nothing else. Anonymous posts are killers of group discussions. The members of the group who aren’t your friends aren’t going to see your post–another turnoff to people wanting to participate in a meaningful conversation with fellow fans of your group’s topic. And if you have set your Facebook account to “only share with friends”–then unless you’ve friended all 5000 people in your group, most are not going to see it. If YES, then make sure your public posts can be seen by “Public.”
7. Hey you loved someone’s post, but don’t have anything to add or to ask of the poster–then just click on Heart or Thumbs Up, or HaHaHa if you really found it humorous. DON’T post a dancing squirrel with heart-thumping GIF file–this is as flow-stopping as a post that repeats something already said. Actually more so, as your post might be three sentences, and only take up an inch of screen row space. The GIF likely fills most of the screen. If you are in the habit of doing this in *groups*, please stop!
8. You like someone’s post. You want to reach out to the poster. You reply “Contact information, please.” DON’T. Send them an instant message instead. Many group members don’t want to share their contact information with the world, but are happy to respond using Facebook’s message service. There you can carry on with well-intentioned dialogue but without screen-flooding Overposting.
9. Not last and not least, don’t use graphics boxes to simply post a question or make a statement. These take up usually more than twice the screen space of a simple statement. This may seem like the most picayunish complaint but if you are more than a once-a-month-check-in group member, you will have shaken your head at this useless feature more than once. One cure that moderators can impose: Delete the post but repaste the statement, tagging the poster up front: “John Q Public asks, ….”

So to summarize:

The conundrum with Facebook Groups is that its format’s problems are everybody’s problems, which are nobody’s fault but Facebook’s. The solution takes cooperation from everyone. And when given a sparing but focused effort, the rewards can be enormous.

You are most welcome as a newbie, and your posts will be too. But get to know your group before creating threads that crowd out the rest of the group’s conversations.

Don’t join all the groups with the same topic–just because they all cover the same topic. You’ll be the victim of the phenomena described above. If you have all the time in the world, don’t worry about it. But I will bet you don’t, and you have a life outside of Facebook.

Find the largest group with the most active conversations and the most active moderators. They zap spam and bots on as close to a 24/7 basis as is possible. A group left unattended by its moderators will mean spam posts, irrelevant chatter, and even flaming and trolling. For like-topic groups with roughly the same number of members, join/follow the group with the most moderators–more moderators means more frequent take-downs of spam and a group esprit de corps in enforcing rules.

Moderators’ Corner!

If you are a Facebook Group Administrator or Moderator, pay special attention to point #4 above. Managing an active, growing group can be as fulfilling and exciting as organizing your own garden club, maker space, or gaming marathon. But don’t be fooled into thinking more groups is automatically better. It isn’t!

Before you start a new group, find the other groups that cover your dream topic–there are likely to be groups already created. Don’t believe me? Not only are there groups about cephalopods, a quick google search finds dozens of cephalopod fan groups, from a handful to over 100,000 members. So ask yourself:

a) Are you really into cephalopods? That 100k member group better be darned active, and if it is, you’d better join ’em rather than try to beat ’em with a new group.

b) How are you going to grow your new group, that duplicates another group’s mission/topic? By siphoning off members of other already situated, comfily-moderated, larger groups? (They will all be larger for a long time after you start your group.) Don’t kid yourself.

c) Are you out to reform the voter registration system? Catalog all the cephalopods in the Hudson River estuary? Find a cure for daisy wilt? FB groups may not be the way to go–give Wikipedia or Google a try first. There are often organizations with much more research-friendly than FB groups, who would be happy to serve you and are already on top of your pet cause.

So find your ideal and most active and best moderated group first. Don’t duplicate the effort. Join that group, and offer to co-administer it.

How to Beat Facebook at the Monetization Game

Finally, one thing to celebrate–and don’t tell Facebook this: If you are concerned about spending too much time “doom-scrolling” especially on Facebook, don’t just bookmark Facebook.com. BOOKMARK YOUR FAVORITE GROUP, so you will go to it first and foremost. You’ll notice that ads and “Facebook suggests…” garbage does not pollute the groups! (I don’t manage any commercial groups, perhaps they are subject to the same excesses as you find in your general FB feed.) You open the group, and you are among friends, friends that don’t turn on the radio or keep looking at their phone while they are talking to you, or unsolicited, showing their latest baby’s diaper change or recommending an effective spray bottle for your daisy wilt when you don’t have daisies in your garden and none of your plants are wilting thank-you-very-much. If you are committed to the topic or cause of that group, you’ll appreciate even the most mundane of posts–because it didn’t get crowded out by FB’s suggested “Reelz” or potential friends you’ve never heard of who may just know one of your other FB friends or ads for something you just bought anyway. Then, go to your other favorite groups.

One last general FB tip (I might need to revise this for more, but this one has spared me hours of time better spent on my non-virtual world priorities: UnFOLLOW (but do not UnFRIEND) your FB Friends. Your general FB feed will have all their latest posts–wonderful! But not so wonderful: Your general FB feed will have all their latest posts! How many friends do you have on FB? I have several who have deleted their FB accounts exactly because of the in-between clutter FB always adds to your general feed. That clutter goes away when you don’t automatically follow all of your hundreds of FB friends. I have FB friends that I’m more connected with locally, or as a colleague in one of my groups, and I will link to whenever I want, and–guess what? No FB ad clutter there either! I actually can see what they are up to, converse with them a titch, and move on! Or not! I can always catch up later.

When I say FB doesn’t care to improve the format of Groups to make it more like a human conversation, I mean it and have direct experience: Once I got an email from a FB outreach staffer, offering to meet online to chat about what could be improved with the Facebook experience, with a focus on Groups. Probably because I’ve been an active moderator, they zeroed in on me? I let this guy know it was bizarre to see some people requesting to join our humble solar cooking groups–when they already belonged to hundreds of other groups. I noted the concern raised all over about social media addiction, and suggested FB could help these people focus. I.e., join a group you really intend to follow and participate in. I detailed how, in my neighborhood, we had a serious crime problem in the 1990’s, and as a chair of the neighborhood association’s committee, I got frustrated with dozens showing up at a meeting but almost no one stepped up with meaningful action. I finally insisted as people signed in for the meeting, to list on the sign up sheet, one or more of the groups projects detailed on the sign-in table. Attendance dropped to about ten on average–but those ten people took charge, felt more unified in their mission than when another twenty showed up to sit on their hands or worse, complain without offering their time to help. We saw a dramatic drop in crime over the coming two years–so much so our metro paper noted our neighborhood as being exceptional. I lamented to this guy that FB, measuring their success in eyeballs and revenue, discounted the even more powerful effect they could have that would cost them nothing, improve their image, and actually attract more people who weren’t turned off by the horror stories they heard. Instead, they could have even a chatbot take care of walking through people’s selections of groups to join after, say, they pulled up their twenty-first group. They could also, instead of automatically making you follow a new accepted friend, that they should ask after accepting, “Do you want to follow your friend?” He thanked me for his input but I sensed that I was speaking Greek to a Venusian. And not that I expected any changes but–sure enough, things got even worse in the general Facebook feed, which led me to unfollow just about all of my friends. I set aside a couple hours a month to scroll through them and seriously only click on the “I wonder what old whats-his-face is up to” friends…

Has this saved me tons of time? Honestly, not tons, but some, and enough time that I feel my participation in groups is worthwhile, and my good real-world and purely “FB” friends are not offended, whether they follow me or not.

Postlude: Most of the links I found when googling “How to use Facebook without wasting time” think it’s your responsibility to watch the clock or take steps such as “only check in 2 or 3 times a day.” These are useless. Have you ever tried that for other meaningful activities in your life? That’s the problem–those are meaningful, whereas much of FB isn’t (gasp!).

Well, as Blaise Pascal wrote, “I didn’t have time to write a short letter.” 🙂 This is longer than it needs to be, but in fact it was written in one sitting, edited lightly a couple times, not over several distracted sessions in between irrelevant FB posts or scrolling through “been there, seen that” re-posts and spams. My time is now my own again, and when I waste it, it’s my own dang fault. And that is more than acceptable.